Educational Episode 43 October 29, 2026

Too Much IV Fluid? Part 2: Albumin, LR vs. Normal Saline, and Fluid Creep in the ICU

Last episode we asked how much fluid is too much. This time we talk about what you’re actually hanging.

Show Notes

In this episode


    - Crystalloid vs. colloid vs. hypertonic. Isotonic crystalloids spread through the extracellular space and redistribute within about an hour. Colloids and hypertonic fluids hold volume in the vessels.
    - Albumin, explained. 5% vs. 25% albumin, and how concentrated albumin pulls interstitial fluid back into the vascular space.
    - The SAFE trial. What it found in septic shock and neuro patients, and Michael’s take on why the 4% albumin used may have shaped the results.
    - Albumin for oncotic pressure, not resuscitation. When the Surviving Sepsis guidelines suggest considering albumin during large-volume resuscitation.
    - Hypertonic bicarb in septic shock. How Michael uses a 4.2% bicarb solution in acidotic patients, plus the BICAR-ICU trials.
    - Normal saline’s chloride problem. Why high-chloride fluid drives a non-anion gap metabolic acidosis and is linked to kidney injury.
    - The LR “lactic” myth. Lactated Ringer’s gives a lactate salt, not lactic acid. Its slightly hypotonic sodium is the bigger concern.
    - Why Plasma-Lyte/Normosol. Balanced, closer to isotonic, and slightly alkaline to offset acidic diluents like normal saline and D5W.
    - Maintenance fluids. Michael’s literature deep dive and the one population where continuous fluids had support: immediately post kidney transplant.
    - The ROSE model. Resuscitation, Optimization, Stabilization, Evacuation. Also why kidney edema inside Gerota’s fascia leads to AKI.
    - Fluid creep. Antibiotics, electrolyte riders, and drip diluents can add up to several liters a day, often more than the “one liter bolus” that was ordered.
    - Know what it’s mixed in. Using diluent choices (D5W vs. saline) to help with glucose and sodium problems.
    - Treat fluid like a prescription. Know the goal, the side effects, and go back to the bedside to check the response.

      Chapters
      00:59 Crystalloids vs. colloids vs. hypertonic fluids
      02:27 Albumin and blood as colloids
      03:19 Hypertonic saline and hypertonic bicarb
      06:55 The SAFE trial and albumin in neuro patients
      08:46 Albumin for oncotic pressure and Surviving Sepsis guidelines
      10:36 Normal saline, LR, and Plasma-Lyte/Normosol
      12:19 The “LR causes lactic” myth
      16:32 The maintenance fluid deep dive
      19:33 The ROSE concept and deresuscitation
      22:02 Fluid creep
      24:46 Knowing what your drips are mixed in
      26:47 Nurses and the bedside view
      28:46 Treat fluids like a prescription

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Cast & Guests

Kaleigh

Kaleigh

BSN, RN

Abby

Abby

DNP, AGAC-NP

Dr. Michael

Dr. Michael

MD

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